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Post by BJ Tomczik on Jul 27, 2006 17:18:08 GMT -5
poopy?
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Post by Mello Yello on Jul 27, 2006 21:44:27 GMT -5
DDD vs Hayden was as well written as I expected it to be
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Post by Chambers & Mackenzie on Jul 27, 2006 21:50:55 GMT -5
Now, I like to think that I've had a lot of history here in the EWE. A former 2 time International Champion, legendary feuds with Mark Chaos for that belt. I've got some good friends here, Jay, Tiger(used to be, although haven't spoken for awhile), and yes, "Dynamic" Derek Daniels.
I don't want to sound like an asshole, but Derek Daniels losing this match at Xplosion was totally a wrong decision. I've spoken to people who agree with me and I've saw alot and heard alot from a ton of sources.
Derek or Jon as we all know him totally out roleplayed Cameron in that match. I've read all they're roleplays, but everything together, looked over past shows to see if it was angle wise, but I don't come up with anything. To me, it seems like a screw job. I know you and Cameron are close buddies and all, but if you had to screw over a rightful winner to secure and maintain your friendship, then you're a fucking idiot.
Sorry to come on here Jay and post this kind of stuff. I don't mean to be an asshole like I've said. I'm just hoping to hear a wise responce to why Cameron won and an excellent explanation. I've ran feds before and I just see no reason for the match to end with Cameron going over Daniels.
The match was well written and done well. If this offends anybody, then I'm sorry.
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Post by BJ Tomczik on Jul 27, 2006 22:23:28 GMT -5
It's not offensive... and just like you, I sat down and read... and reread... and reread again.. it took me 4 hours to make the final decision for that match... I mean, everyone is intitled to their opinion Mr. Chambers (and I respect yours since I know what you've done in the EWE)... but when it boils down... it's always quality over quantity... There is nothing more I would like to do then have had Cameron lose, hell, I'm scared to rp against the guy... and I've always wanted a DDD match... but I'm sorry, I honestly liked Cameron's roleplays better... Jon's were nothing short of amazing either... so I can see what you're saying, I just hope you understand my point of view before just calling it a "screw job"
Welcome to E-feds... people win... people lose... it's the name of the game.
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Post by Chambers & Mackenzie on Jul 27, 2006 22:30:41 GMT -5
As I previously stated, that was only posted so I knew myself that just because Cameron Hayden is your friend that you didn't screw over DDD for the win. They both roleplayed their asses off. Quantity AND Quality, both of 'em. Hayden put up long ass roleplays, as did Daniels.
I guess we see different ways on this, but I'll leave it that. I'll respect your decision.
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Post by BJ Tomczik on Jul 27, 2006 22:36:27 GMT -5
It would have made waves either way... I'm glad you're honest and all too, instead of just sayind "I luved itz lolz"
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Post by Mello Yello on Jul 27, 2006 22:37:36 GMT -5
Now, I like to think that I've had a lot of history here in the EWE. A former 2 time International Champion, legendary feuds with Mark Chaos for that belt. I've got some good friends here, Jay, Tiger(used to be, although haven't spoken for awhile), and yes, "Dynamic" Derek Daniels. I don't want to sound like an asshole, but Derek Daniels losing this match at Xplosion was totally a wrong decision. I've spoken to people who agree with me and I've saw alot and heard alot from a ton of sources. Derek or Jon as we all know him totally out roleplayed Cameron in that match. I've read all they're roleplays, but everything together, looked over past shows to see if it was angle wise, but I don't come up with anything. To me, it seems like a screw job. I know you and Cameron are close buddies and all, but if you had to screw over a rightful winner to secure and maintain your friendship, then you're a fucking idiot. Sorry to come on here Jay and post this kind of stuff. I don't mean to be an asshole like I've said. I'm just hoping to hear a wise responce to why Cameron won and an excellent explanation. I've ran feds before and I just see no reason for the match to end with Cameron going over Daniels. The match was well written and done well. If this offends anybody, then I'm sorry. I'm offended by this, and I actually have no real clue about who you are so, I can be honest. Jon and I both RPed our tails off, and what you said if offensive to me as an Rper. Jon and I both thought whoever won was the deserving winner, ask him, he'll tell you the same. I think you're not just wrong, but EXTREMELY wrong. I deserved the win. I know I am a good Rper, and I know DDD is a good RPer. We both deserved to win. You're not the judge, you're opinion on the matter is very unneccessary
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Post by Android #18 on Jul 28, 2006 6:16:06 GMT -5
Well written matches and great rps. A good show. Some questionable judging, but hey when is there not right.
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Post by The Cabbage on Jul 28, 2006 7:24:06 GMT -5
Hey Sean it should be a 3 way then...DDD Vs. Hayden Vs. Lewis
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Post by Chambers & Mackenzie on Jul 28, 2006 12:40:17 GMT -5
Well Hayden, I believe that this is a feedback topic, so I indeed gave feedback. I believe I also said sorry if I offended you. And I have asked Jon about it, I can asure you that he doesn't feel the same way as we had a very lenghty discussion about it lastnight.
You see, Jon and I go way back and we've been pals a hell of a long time. I also said that you guys roleplayed you're asses off, complimenting you and you bitch at me?!
Like I said, I gave feedback on a feedback thread. Nobody else seemed to care and it seems Android agrees with my reasoning, but meh.
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Post by Mello Yello on Jul 28, 2006 13:17:02 GMT -5
Well, Jon told me he was happy with the outcome of the match.
And just because you said "sorry," doesn't automatically make something less offensive. And you did compliment me on one thing, but that wasn't what I was "bitching" at you about.
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Post by Chambers & Mackenzie on Jul 28, 2006 13:39:57 GMT -5
Jon is a class act, he's not going to bitch about losing or whatever. I usually don't either, but like I said, I just wanted a reason and I respected BJ's reasoning and therefore I dropped the topic of it all, but you continued it.
So there you have it, congratulations on your win.
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Post by Mello Yello on Jul 29, 2006 2:28:58 GMT -5
Continued it? I defended my credibility
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Post by Chambers & Mackenzie on Jul 29, 2006 11:30:59 GMT -5
I didn't mean continuing the thing, I meant it as continued on from my argument when I was finished with it.
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Post by Rikku!!!!! on Jul 29, 2006 12:35:25 GMT -5
*waves hands wildly and jumps around*
Ricky look at me! do you remmeber me! Ricky? RICKY!!!!!!!!!!!!
(thought it was an over all good show)
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